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Technical Info: 2nd Gen 24 VALVE DRIVETRAIN Technical discussion of second generation (1998 - 2002) 24-valve engine and drivetrain questions, solutions and upgrades.
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Old 04-27-2012
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Guys if we are wrapping foil around wires like people put foil on their head down in Roswell New Mexico hoping to keep the alien bugs from attacking you then your nuts.

Let's find out what the problem is a fix it.
Ever see how they shield instrument and speaker cables from interference so the local truckers CB doesn't bleed in on the sunday sermon??

They put a layer of FOIL in the wire and call them shielded cables.

I did track down and print a solution from ATS that involves running 2 new wires and cutting one,
basically running the APPS wire to the ECM and to the PCM instead of through the ECM to the PCM,
that was my next option.
Also found several folks who said that one didn't work for them but a similar solution fron suncoast did.
I never found a copy of that one.

There's also the option of mounting a toggle switch on the dash that locks the TC.....

I would have to agree with Nigel though, my truck has run better, in many ways, the last 3 days than it has in MANY months!
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I can tell you first hand I have never ever band aid fixed any truck that had these sorts of drivability issues. You find the problem and you fix it pure and simple.

How would think If you brought me your truck and I temp fixed it with Renolds Wrap?

Or maybe it had to come back to my shop six times for the same issue?

Sorry but this boy dont fly that way.
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Did the condition of "gear" hunt appear gradually over time or just appear suddenly? Has any one disconnected the harness from the computers and checked condition of the harness insulation and grounds? If pro car guys remember when you got an alternator for certain Ford products in the late 80' and early 90" they gave you a alternator pig tail also. Was the wire or connector failing? You didn't reroute anything you just changed the pigtail and 8 or so inches of wire. Electronics can degredate over time and grounds turn into resistors, diodes can become wires......
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Did the condition of "gear" hunt appear gradually over time or just appear suddenly? Has any one disconnected the harness from the computers and checked condition of the harness insulation and grounds? If pro car guys remember when you got an alternator for certain Ford products in the late 80' and early 90" they gave you a alternator pig tail also. Was the wire or connector failing? You didn't reroute anything you just changed the pigtail and 8 or so inches of wire. Electronics can degredate over time and grounds turn into resistors, diodes can become wires......
This is true. Fords cure to a bad connector that cause the vehicle to burn to the ground.
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It has gradually gotten worse over the past year.
I've been looking for the culprit for about that long.
When I changed the alternator last year it disappeared completely for a while then gradually came back.
It had finally gotten to be a constant problem.

I've cleaned plugs and greased them with dielectric grease, checked and adjusted the apps which did nothing, cleaned many cables at both ends, checked for codes numerous times, and was about ready to change the governor pressure sensor.

Like I said before, I would've been thinking BS myself if it hadn't happened to me,
but it DID work, and all the other deeper stuff did not.

This may not be the final word on the issue,
but I would have to say it definately narrows down the source of the problem.
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Too much dialectric grease on the terminals & it can act like an insulator. I 've always put it around the connector & on the rubber seal, try to keep it away from the terminals.
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but it DID work, and all the other deeper stuff did not.

This may not be the final word on the issue,
but I would have to say it definately narrows down the source of the problem.
i cover my race cars ACD (Advanced Control Devise) lenco shift control with foil, it works to stop RFI's (radio frequency interference) from the magneto.
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Resurrection!!!!!!

Additional note....one bad battery will cause some real P.I.T.A. shifting issues.
One new battery, all gone away.

Tractor wouldn't crank one day so I swapped the battery for one in the truck.
Thought a good charge might fix it....nope.
Over a month and constant "gear hunting".
Changed the battery...all good again, with the shifting that is.

Still got a funky VP causing timing issues, but it's still running.
Just don't want to take it too far....
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I can tell you first hand I have never ever band aid fixed any truck that had these sorts of drivability issues. You find the problem and you fix it pure and simple.

How would think If you brought me your truck and I temp fixed it with Renolds Wrap?
Hey!!!! I am offended, if your going to do a band aid solution make sure you spell it correctly. It is "Reynolds Wrap"

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Mine turned out to be 2 of the diode circuits were fried in the alternator, I had it rebuilt and all is gone. Put a meter on the battery and switch it to A/C and see what you get. Mine was 10 times the allowable current which was confusing the tranny circuit.
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