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Old 11-24-2007
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Default 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

Hi, my husband is stuck at work with our 2003 2500 Dodge. The temp is about 25-30 outside. It is the coldest night we have had this year. The truck had been hard to start when it was cold outside, but now all it is doing is cranking and will not start. Please hep, he has come off a 12 hour night shift,and sleeping in the truck. Can anyone help?
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Sorry a little late, but this could be due to gelling of the fuel, formation of ice in the fuel tanks or lines or poor fuel quality. Try using a fuel conditioner, (anti-gell/cetane boost), that will improve the cetane level and lower the gell point of the fuel, if you are not all ready doing so.
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

powerservice makes a "911" additive for gelling of the fuel you could try that or you could have fuel system probs...they could happen that quik
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

The 911 has been known to eat pumps up if not used properly. Do some checkin around before u use it! [img]/forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] Good luck!
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CumNHard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 911 has been known to eat pumps up also. Do some checkin around. </div></div>

It helped me out last winter in New Hampshire. Why would it eat pumps? I don't think it's intended as a year round additive, only when you are stuck like this guy.
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Here is some info on 9.1.1

To De-Ice Frozen Fuel-Filters
Water is dissolved in and carried by all diesel fuels. At temperatures below +32°F, water that has collected in fuel-filters freezes. This causes decreased fuel flow to the engine and results in reduced engine power or engine shutdown.

To de-ice frozen fuel-filters, check to insure that diesel fuel in the equipment fuel tanks is not gelled. If fuel is liquid:

Remove fuel-filters.

Empty remaining liquid from fuel-filters.

Fill fuel-filters with 50% Diesel 9.1.1 and 50% diesel fuel.

Reinstall fuel-filters.

Start engine.

If outside temperature is below +20°F, add Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement® +Cetane Boost or Arctic Express® Diesel Fuel Antigel.

To Reliquefy Gelled Diesel Fuel
During cold weather operation, diesel fuel that has not been treated with Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost or Arctic Express Diesel Fuel Antigel can change from a liquid to a solid. This transformation is called gelling.

To reliquefy gelled diesel fuel:

Add one gallon of Diesel 9.1.1 to each 100 gallons of fuel in equipment tanks.

Remove fuel-filters.

Fill fuel-filters with 50% Diesel 9.1.1 and 50% diesel fuel.

Reinstall fuel-filters.

Start engine — let idle for 5 minutes to heat fuel system before resuming normal operation.

Add Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement® +Cetane Boost or Arctic Express® Diesel Fuel Antigel to prevent further gelling.
To Remove Water from Diesel Fuel Systems
Diesel fuel systems accumulate water during normal operations. The constant recirculation of diesel fuel for lubrication and cooling of fuel injectors causes thermal variations within fuel tanks and produces water in the form of condensation. Water can also be introduced into a fuel system from fuel suppliers that do not periodically check their fuel-handling equipment for water contamination.

To remove water from a diesel fuel system:

Drain or pump water from the bottom of fuel tanks until diesel fuel appears.

Add one gallon of Diesel 9.1.1 to each 200 gallons of diesel fuel.

Remove fuel-filters.

Fill fuel-filters with 50% Diesel 9.1.1 and 50% diesel fuel.

Reinstall fuel-filters.

Start engine.

Hope this helps!!!
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Home Wood</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CumNHard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 911 has been known to eat pumps up also. Do some checkin around. </div></div>

It helped me out last winter in New Hampshire. Why would it eat pumps? I don't think it's intended as a year round additive, only when you are stuck like this guy. </div></div>

I edited the post, the reason is only when not used properly.
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Gotcha.

So, has this truck started yet?
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

No, I had to have it towed home, we added fuel add. and changed the fuel filter. It is getting fuel,and the batteries have enough to crank it, but it still won't crank. we cleanded the crank sensor. still no luck.
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Default Re: 2003 Dodge cranks, but won't start when cold.

LP. I don't think 25-30* temps is really enough to gell blended #2, Water on the other hand is possible. I still say, Check that LP!
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